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Is Perfect Pocket Pets a scam?
As of August 29th 2011 they have 23 cases filed against them (in the last 36 months) with the Better Business Bureau.
Click here to file your own complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
Search for “Pocket Pets” (Address: 16710 Sanctuary Estates Dr, Cape Coral, FL).
Domains:
perfectpocketpets.com (Private Registration)
sugargliderinfo.org (Private Registration)
sugarbears.com (Virgil Klunder)
pocket-pets.org (Private Registration)
pocketpetsonline.com (Private Registration)
Possible other domains:
SugarGlidersHere.com (Fake Registration as Frank Lopera William Brown)
SugarGliderReviews.org (Fake Registration as Thomas Jones William Brown Julian Saavedra)
ASGV.org (Private Registration)
vetspride.com (Private Registration)
mynasga.org (Private Registration)
mynasba.org (Private Registration)
isgaonline.org (Private Registration)
Domain owned by Virgil Klunder and Kathy Lynn Klunder:
theklunders.com (Virgil Klunder)
1800-flyaway.com (Virgil Klunder)
Business Name:
Global Retail Enterprises, Inc
Fictitious Business Names:
Pocket Pets of Illinois
Association of Sugar Glider Veterinarians
Vets Pride
The Comfort Zone LTD. INC.
Midas Management Group, LLC
Reliant Aerosports, LLC
Comfort Zone Enterprises, Inc.
The Instant Magician, Inc
Lions Global Enterprises, Inc
Lions Motorsports
K.V. Enterprises
JustMe!Music
Contact Information:
Primary Contact: Virgil Klunder (Owner/Executive Director)
Ms. Kathy Lynn Klunder (President)
Ms. Summer Whitney (Customer Service Supervisor)
Mr. Eric Schuler (Chief Operating Officer)
Phone: (239) 699-4188
Phone: (239) 223-4142
Phone: (718) 989-2984
Phone: (239) 283-2103
Phone: (239) 242-0355
Fax: (239) 242-7255
16710 Sanctuary Estates Drive
Cape Coral, Florida 33993
229 Hancock Bridge Parkway
Cape Coral, FL 33990
oz@theklunders.com
czvirg@aol.com
Do you own ASGV.org and VetsPride.com, or how is Pocket Pets associated with them?
We are very aware of the latest web of ‘conspiracy theories’ that the Internet chat rooms have concocted about our supposed involvement with the ASGV and Vets Pride organizations – and as usual, they are nothing more than a pathetic attempt by a handful of lonely people who are desperately trying to hold onto their relevance in their online ‘worlds” where they are looked up to as “experts”.
This is nothing new. In fact, what really happens whenever they do this kind of thing is that there is a very small handful of self-proclaimed experts out there on the Internet who repeatedly post a wide range of lies and conspiracy theories about our company – using multiple screen names – on the same 2 or 3 chat rooms – and then you have a ‘ripple effect’ of the blind leading the blind repeating utter lies and nonsense. It’s a lot like that “telephone” game we all played when we were kids – except these misguided individuals are so desperate for attention that they have absolutely no regard for the truth or facts.
The bottom line is we could not care less about these nuts- and their claims are both pathetic and silly. Our only involvement with the ASGV is that we have worked for years with many of the top sugar glider vets in the world who are all members of that organization. We get all our care and dietary advice from the best vets in the world – and we will never apologize to anyone for that.
Now, not surprisingly, these same wackos don’t agree with any of these vets either. Therefore, they must immediately try everything they can to trash them as well. That being said, we’re not even going to waste one sentence comparing the qualifications of licensed veterinarians against a handful of unlicensed Internet “experts (who themselves have never raised more than a few pairs of these animals).
If these Internet wackos are to be believed, we have supposedly gathered together literally HUNDREDS of veterinarians from all over the world – and bribed them to say whatever we want them to. Obviously, that is completely insane – but the truth simply does not matter to these individuals.
In fact, these same wackos recently even went so far as to anonymously file fraudulent corporate documents online with the state of Florida in a lame attempt to make it look like we own both the companies you mentioned. Quite frankly, our attorneys are having a hay-day with that one – because it proves – in black and white – just how desperate these nuts are to bash anyone who disagrees with them – and that they will even go so far as to try and trash the reputations of Veterinarians who have dedicated their entire lives to helping animals. The mere idea that anyone could somehow bribe hundreds of licensed veterinarians to lie and publish information about caring for ANY animal that would harm it is beyond ridiculous – but these nuts have never been constrained by the truth before – so why start now. 
Next thing you know, pretty soon we will have also planned 9/11 and hired the 2nd gunman who shot Kennedy…. It’s all quite pathetic and sad really.
In any event, all we can tell you is that to be VERY careful of the sources where you got such misguided information. If you have ANY doubts about what we say as far as care and diet, we suggest you watch the official ASGV educational video series (at www.ASGV.org) and then make whatever decision you feel is best for you and your gliders. We wish you all the best.
Thanks for this! These people are horrible, and make all their money by harming animals. Why are they millionaires instead of in jail??
what do you know about vetspride.com? Are they a viable company?
no vets pride is another one of his scams.
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?action=DETREG&docnum=G09000134330&rdocnum=G09000134330
also the asgv
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?action=DETREG&docnum=G09000134327&rdocnum=G09000134327
just so you know global enterprises is also their company
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=P04000127481&inq_came_from=FEI&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&fei_fei_number=201592833&fei_cor_number=
Notice those fictitious names have been canceled. I just added Perfect Pocket Pet’s response to owning ASGV.org and VetsPride.com.
According to what I just read,it wasn’t legal to own a glider in this country until March 2009.And there are still four states that won’t allow it. So how can this comp. been legally selling gliders for 15 years?With the help of PETA a exoitic animal comp. has just been shut down in Texas. Many sm. reptiles,birds,rodents and gliders were found dead from lack of food and water and proper care. Perhaps Peta could help get this “PerfectPocketPets” shut down as well.Haven’t we learned from Florida’s problems with snakes and lizards being allowed as pets, now being overrun with them.All now being hunted down and killed.
Debra,
Did you read that on Wikipedia? “As of March 2009, they are legal to own as domestic house pets in the U.S.A in 46 of the 50 states”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Glider
This website has a list of states and their laws. I believe the website is a bit out of date, but I see states making it legal to own Sugar Gliders as far back as 1998.
http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/stateres.html
The problem with pet stores is greed. Many dogs and cats are found dead from lack of food, water and proper care also.
As far as becoming overrun with Sugar Gliders. I was told by Perfect Pocket Pets that all the male Sugar Gliders are neutered before being sold.
I am just overwhelmed by the business dealings of the greedyness for money, Its a terrible to think and to know that these people dont care about these little creatures that god created and there main interest is only money.I first learned about these furry little ones from PPP at a state fair and I was lied to about everything,housing,diet,health etc..I did not buy one from them that day but I did go on line and reasearched about them before I owned them,people need to stop breeding them and save the lives of one that has been rescued because PPP wanted more money and had to lie to get it,god will deal with him and others involved with the fast talking liar.just pray that it all syops one day and save the ones you can.
I cannot believe all the nonsence you people are writting. I have 2 sugargliders and have had them for 2 years now. I got them from Perfect Pocket Pets and have had absolutly no problems with them. Their health is fine they are a facinating addition to our family and get along with the family dog, the grandkids and my elderly mother who has alzhiemers. They just like other pets or even children need some special attension to aclimate them to your home. Not every person is able to do this and if you are one of those people then don’t buy them but don’t try to tell others what they should or shouldn’t have. If you want to do that perhaps your first goal should be some kind of test for becoming a parent or pet owner. Because there are many regular (traditional) pets and children out there being miscared for also. My little guys (Spike & Gizmo) bring smiles to anyone’s face that they meet. They come camping with us in our RV and have met lots of people, I agree they aren’t for everyone but then nothing is. To say that the people from PPP don’t care for the babies they sell is eroneous they send you many weeks worth of e-mails on caring for your new babies before you even get them, and are always there for you if you have a problem. I’m guessing the people who had sad results with ownership probably didn’t recognize a problem in a timely fashon or just weren’t ready to be parents to something that tiny and untraditional. If you really care find families that have sugar babies that have had a good experience, I’m willing to bet there are a lot more of those than the 13 cases sited at the begining of this site.
I’ve had a couple of pets I purchased from Pocket pets a couple of years ago. They seem to be doing fine. I clicked on the link of those 13 cases filed against them and all of them are resolved. I
I’m glad they are doing well. The cases only stay on for 36 months, but they currently have 15 cases! Thanks for the comment.
they had these in the Valdosta Mall last Christmas. Selling them for like $500 i think.
I just ran across a Perfect Pets demo in the Avenues Mall in Jacksonville, Fl this weekend. I was tempted to buy but knew from past experience in other areas to CHECK THE NET FIRST. I have spent about 3 hours now checking one site after another – THEN, I watched the series of videos done by the Vet from ASGV. What he said made perfect sense. He seemed to be very concerned about the welfare of these gliders and offered both pros and cons – especially regarding the males doing scent marking – something that was not mentioned at the mall – but then, I did not ask. They would not allow you to view the babies unless you wanted to buy one – which is exactly what the vet said = it would be too upsetting to them. The adults they had with them were very friendly and very comfortable with their handlers – jumping great distances to get back to them when called. They were not the sick,dying pets described by some web sites. IF I descide to go back before they leave, I will ask for credentials and ask if males are neutered – as the vet said they should be (at least by better dealers). I think I am now sure that Perfect Pets of Florida – is a legit business and I would feel comfortable in buying from them. I found other companies by similar names out there and I don’t think PP of Fl. is one of the “mills”. I pray not. I ‘ll just have to trust my feelings.
PS – to my orig. post – I was troubled by one thing – Perfect Pets insisted that these animals should NOT be shipped by air =- that it would be far too traumatic for them. I wondered if it was a ploy to get you to buy NOW and not go home and change your mind. But, After seeing these tiny babies and doing hours of research – I completely agree. They must have constant temperatures and you do NOT get that in the belly of an airplane. I think it’s the “MILLS” that are assuring us it’s OK to ship these very tiny, delicate babies by air. I’m sure most survive, but it surely can’t be good for them. Coming directly home with you in a pouch around your neck and being constantly comforted along the way is a much better alternative to shipping them on a plane where the temperatures can vary by many degrees. I am NOT an activist for or against any of these sites or dealers- just trying to find the truth in the middle of a lot of inaccurate information. I think the MILLS have much more reason to convince you to buy ONLINE and have it shipped – while Perfect Pets REFUSES to ship them this way. I think I have to agree with them. Thanx.